Flu Shot Study: When Protection May Fade Over Time
Summary
It is frustrating to do the “responsible” thing, get a flu shot early, and still end up sick in January. A Cleveland Clinic workforce study discussed in this video reports that during the 2024 to 2025 season, employees who received the flu vaccine had a higher cumulative incidence of influenza over time, with an estimated 27% increased risk in the analysis. The video’s unique focus is not just the headline result, but the timing, early-season similarity, later-season “bifurcation,” and the idea that waning immunity, host factors, and lifestyle may influence real-world effectiveness. Here is how to interpret that claim carefully and what you can do now.
🎯 Key Takeaways
- ✓In this Cleveland Clinic workforce analysis, flu risk looked similar early in the season, then diverged later, with higher cumulative incidence in vaccinated employees.
- ✓The video emphasizes timing, protection may wane around 70 to 100 days after vaccination, which can matter if you vaccinate in September and peak flu hits later.
- ✓This is an observational workforce study, so it can show association, not certainty about cause, and differences in exposure and testing behavior may influence results.
- ✓A practical takeaway is to pair any vaccine decision with lifestyle basics that support immune function, sleep, activity, nutrition, and addressing winter factors like low vitamin D.
- ✓Heat exposure (sauna, steam room, hot tub) is framed as a supportive comfort strategy when you feel run down, but it is not a substitute for medical care or vaccination.
Why it feels like flu season keeps moving the goalposts
You plan ahead, you follow the public health reminders, and you still get knocked out by a fever and body aches weeks later.
That disconnect is the emotional engine of this video. The discussion is framed as a journey of discovery: a high-profile health system study suggests that, in one season, the flu shot was not just less protective than hoped, it was linked to a higher measured risk of influenza infection later in the season.
The point is not “never vaccinate.” The point is to look at timing, tradeoffs, and what your body is doing in the background when winter hits.
Important: If you are older, pregnant, immunocompromised, or have chronic medical conditions, flu can be dangerous. Vaccine decisions should be individualized with your clinician, especially if you have a history of vaccine reactions or complex health issues.
What the Cleveland Clinic study actually reported
The headline claim in the video is specific: a “brand new study” linked flu vaccination with a 27% increased risk of getting influenza during the 2024 to 2025 respiratory viral season.
What makes this video’s perspective unusual is the insistence on provenance. The speaker repeatedly underscores that this was not a fringe blog or a political figure, it was investigators at Cleveland Clinic, in a large cohort of working-age adults.
The population and the key finding
The study involved 53,42 working-aged individuals (as stated in the transcript), described as Cleveland Clinic employees. The authors’ conclusion is quoted directly in the video: they were unable to find that influenza vaccination was effective in preventing infection during the 2024 to 2025 season.
Then comes the part that drives the controversy: the cumulative incidence of influenza increased more rapidly among vaccinated participants over the course of follow-up.
What the research shows: Vaccine effectiveness can vary widely by season depending on strain match, population factors, and timing. The CDC explains that flu vaccine effectiveness varies year to year and reduces risk of illness and severe outcomes even when it is not a perfect match (CDC: Vaccine EffectivenessTrusted Source).
The “bifurcation” the video focuses on
The video walks through a figure showing cumulative incidence over 196 days. The key visual interpretation is timing-based:
The speaker calls the difference about 0.5%, and notes it was statistically significant in the study.
This framing matters because it shifts the conversation from “does it work at all?” to “does it work early, then fade, and if so, what happens later?”
A key idea in the video: timing and waning protection
The most actionable concept in the discussion is not the 27% number. It is the idea that short-term protection may wane, and the calendar can work against you.
If vaccination is encouraged around “back to school” in September, then “100 days later” lands in January, which is often when people are indoors more, moving less, and dealing with winter routines.
This perspective highlights a real-world collision of factors: if immunity declines while exposure risk rises, you can end up feeling like the intervention failed right when you needed it.
A hypothesis raised in the video: immune response dynamics
The speaker speculates about a mechanism, presented as a question rather than a settled claim: early antigen exposure could create a strong post-vaccination immune response that fades over time, potentially leaving someone “more vulnerable down the road.”
That is not proven by this one study, but it is the kind of hypothesis that would require careful immunology research to confirm.
A grounded way to think about it is this: immune protection is not a simple on-off switch. Antibody levels can decline, and protection may change as strains circulate and exposures accumulate. Public health agencies acknowledge that flu vaccine protection can wane over a season, which is one reason timing is discussed for certain groups (CDC: Timing of Flu VaccinationTrusted Source).
The “number needed to treat” lens
A distinctive analytical move in the video is the push to evaluate interventions with a risk versus benefit mindset, including concepts like number needed to treat (NNT).
The argument is straightforward: if a benefit is short-term and any risk is longer-term, you would want to quantify both. In practice, NNT for flu vaccination varies by season, outcome (preventing any symptomatic illness versus preventing hospitalization), and population risk.
This does not mean the vaccine has no value. It means the value may be different for a healthy 30-year-old healthcare worker than for a 70-year-old with heart disease.
Did you know? The CDC estimates flu has caused millions of illnesses and tens of thousands of deaths in some seasons, with the highest hospitalization rates typically in older adults and young children (CDC: Disease Burden of FluTrusted Source).
Why an observational result can look “backwards” (and what to check)
A result that says “vaccinated people got influenza more often” can be real, but it can also be misleading if you do not examine context.
This study, as described in the video, is an observational analysis in a specific workforce. Observational studies are valuable, but they are vulnerable to confounding.
Here are practical reasons an association could appear even if a vaccine has some benefit.
None of those points automatically dismiss the finding. They simply explain why the next step is to ask: what adjustments were made, how was influenza defined, how was vaccination status treated over time, and what sensitivity analyses were done?
Pro Tip: When you see a surprising vaccine headline, look for three details before you decide what it means for you: the population studied, whether outcomes were lab-confirmed, and whether the design can separate correlation from causation.
Expert Q&A: “Does this mean the flu shot makes you sick?”
Q: If a study shows higher flu rates in vaccinated people, does that mean the flu shot causes flu?
A: Not necessarily. Standard flu shots used in the United States do not contain live virus that can cause influenza illness in the way natural infection does. People can feel achy or feverish after vaccination because the immune system is responding, but that is different from having influenza.
A study like this can show an association, but it cannot automatically prove the vaccine caused more infections. Differences in exposure, testing, and timing can all influence the result. It is worth discussing your personal risk factors and the best strategy for you with your clinician.
Jordan Patel, MD, Internal Medicine
Real-world action plan: strengthen your “host response”
The video repeatedly returns to a theme that is often missing from vaccine debates: the host immune system matters.
This framing emphasizes that even if a vaccine is well-matched, your body still has to mount and sustain an immune response. The speaker argues that public health messaging would be stronger if it paired vaccination guidance with lifestyle steps that improve metabolic and immune resilience.
What to focus on as winter approaches
These are practical, non-prescriptive steps that can support immune function and reduce respiratory infection risk overall.
“Get hot on purpose”: heat exposure as a comfort tool
A unique part of the video is the practical suggestion to use heat exposure when you feel run down: sauna, steam room, hot tub, or at-home heat options.
Heat can feel good, may ease muscle aches, and can promote relaxation. Some research suggests sauna bathing is associated with certain cardiovascular benefits in observational data, although it is not a treatment for influenza and it does not replace medical care (Mayo Clinic: Sauna benefits and risksTrusted Source).
Be cautious if you are pregnant, have unstable heart disease, low blood pressure, or take medications that impair heat tolerance. If you feel dizzy, nauseated, or faint, stop and cool down.
Important: If you have high fever, chest pain, trouble breathing, confusion, dehydration, or symptoms that rapidly worsen, seek urgent medical evaluation. Heat exposure should not delay care.
A simple “decision hygiene” checklist for flu prevention
This is the journey-of-discovery takeaway: instead of making flu prevention a single decision, treat it like a system.
Clarify your personal risk. Age, pregnancy, chronic lung or heart disease, diabetes, immune suppression, and household exposure all change the risk-benefit balance. A clinician can help you weigh options.
Time your prevention plan. If waning protection is a concern, ask about timing and whether your situation suggests earlier or later vaccination. Also plan for the predictable January factors, less light, less movement, more indoor contact.
Build “immune margin” with basics. Sleep, movement, nutrition, and stress management are not glamorous, but they are the foundation that supports any medical intervention.
Use layered protection when flu is high. Hand hygiene, staying home when sick, improving indoor ventilation, and masking in high-risk settings can reduce exposure. The CDC lists practical prevention steps beyond vaccination (CDC: Prevent Seasonal FluTrusted Source).
»MORE: If you want a practical weekly routine, create a “winter baseline” checklist: sleep target, two strength sessions, three walks, grocery list staples, and a plan for indoor air (filters or ventilation).
Expert Q&A: “Should healthy adults still consider a flu shot?”
Q: If this season’s vaccine looked ineffective in one workforce study, should a healthy adult skip it?
A: It depends on your personal risk and your goals. Even in years when effectiveness against infection is lower, vaccination may still reduce severity, missed workdays, or complications for some people. The benefit is usually larger for people at higher risk of hospitalization.
A single observational study should be weighed alongside broader surveillance data and your own situation, including your exposure risk and the vulnerability of people you live or work with. A quick conversation with your primary care clinician can help you make a decision that fits your health profile.
Elena Ruiz, MD, Family Medicine
Key Takeaways
Frequently Asked Questions
- Can the flu shot give you the flu?
- Standard flu shots in the United States do not contain live virus that can cause influenza infection. Some people feel fatigue, soreness, or mild fever after vaccination because the immune system is responding, but that is not the same as having influenza.
- Why would vaccinated people test positive more often in a study?
- In observational studies, groups can differ in exposure risk, job role, and testing behavior. If vaccinated workers are more patient-facing or more likely to test when sick, measured infection rates can look higher even without the vaccine causing infections.
- Does flu vaccine protection wear off during the season?
- Protection can decline over time, and public health agencies acknowledge that waning may occur, especially across a long season. Timing decisions are best individualized, particularly for people at higher risk of severe flu.
- Are saunas or hot tubs a treatment for influenza?
- Heat exposure may help you feel more comfortable and relaxed, but it does not treat influenza or replace medical evaluation. Avoid overheating and seek care promptly for severe symptoms like breathing difficulty or dehydration.
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